Coaches #8 - #10 - Page 2
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# | DATE | PHOTOG. | LOCATION | SOURCE | PAGE | C | REMARKS |
1884/85 | Alex Martin | High Bridge | Hauck | 84(d) | CM | CC coach #8, #9 or #10 (too short for #19 or #20) | |
Kindig | 59(d) | RR | |||||
1885 | Unknown | High Bridge | Kindig | 219 | FR | CC coach #8, #9 or #10, second from left (shorter than #19/20 to its right); Still has oval medallion | |
(1) | 1885/89 | W.H. Jackson | Central City switchback | Digerness3 | 410 | DD | CC coach #186; Oval medallion is gone; Full scene is at Digerness3-406/07, Maxwell KJ33 (note this is KJ33, not KC33) and Poor 107. Maxwell incorrectly dates photos to 1878 but number on accompanying loco is post-1885 U.P. style. |
Ferrell/C&S | 22(d) | MF | |||||
Maxwell | KC33 | JM | |||||
Poor | 107(ME) | CH | |||||
no date | H.H. Buckwalter | Roscoe | Kindig | 247(d) | SC | UPD&G coach #184, #185 or #186 (best guess), 3rd and 4th from right; None have oval medallion | |
1886 | Unknown | Boreas Pass | Digerness2 | 122 | DD | CC coach #186 or #187 to far right; too dark to see whether it has oval medallion | |
late 1880s | Alex Martin | High Bridge | Kindig | 228 | FR | CC coach #184, #185 or #186; No oval medallion | |
1888 | Unknown | Idaho Springs | Hauck | 99 | CM | CC coach #184, #185 or #186; dated 1888 by Hauck but still has oval medallion | |
(2) | bef. 1889? |
W.H. Jackson | Inspiration Point | Hauck | 89 | CH | CC coach #8 (Kindig) or #184, depending on date; but still has oval medallion |
Kindig | 55 | CR | |||||
Poor | 66(ME) | CH | |||||
no date | Unknown | High Fill | Kindig | 225(u) | CR | UPD&G coach #184, #185 or #186; undated, but likely after 1885 as it is missing the oval medallion | |
1902 | Unknown | Deansbury | Kindig | 266 | CR | C&S coach #141, #142 or #143 (3rd car, best guess) | |
1904 | W.H. Jackson | High Bridge | Kindig | 235 | CH | C&S coach #141, #142 or #143 (left, best guess) | |
no date | Unknown | Silver Plume | Hauck | 129(d) | HR | C&S coach #53, #54 or #55, behind RPO (best guess) | |
1913 30 Nov | J.W. Maxwell | Unknown | Maxwell | KW55 | JM | C&S coach #55, on track to left of scene at wreck site |
We are not aware of any plans or drawings for these cars.
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Car diagram for C&S coaches #53 and #54. updated through 1916. (Note that this is not a scale drawing.) Click pic for enlargement. |
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Car diagram for C&S coach #55 updated through 1916. (Note that this is not a scale drawing.) Click pic for enlargement/ |
CC No. | #8 | #9 | #10 | ||
1885 U.P. No. | #184 | #185 | #186 | ||
1891 UPD&G No. | #184 | #185 | #186 | ||
1899 C&S No. | #141 | #142 | #143 | ||
1906 C&S No. | #53 | #54 | #55 | ||
Car Type | Coach | ||||
Capacity | (1885) | 22 seats | |||
(1916) | 22 seats | 21 seats * | |||
Delivery Date | December 1880 | ||||
Acquired From | Union Pacific Railway | ||||
Cost | $4,592.56 each | ||||
Length Over Endsills |
(1885) |
40'-2" | |||
(1916) |
40'-0" | 39'-10" | |||
Length Over Buffers (1916) | 47'-5" | 47'-7" | |||
Truck Centers (1916) | 30'-1" | 29'-10" | |||
Wheel Size | (1885) | 26" | 24" | 24" | |
(1916) |
26" | 26" | 26" | ||
Truck Wheelbase (1916) | 5'-6" | 5"-0" | |||
Width (1916) | 7'-10" | 8'-0" | |||
Height of Body (1916) | 9'-6" | 9'-6" | |||
Body Above Rails (1916) | 34" | 36" | |||
Weight |
(1912) | 17 tons | 18 tons | ||
(1916) |
38,400 lbs. | 41,320 lbs. | 38,700 lbs. | ||
Platform Roof | Bull-nosed | ||||
Platform roof eaves | Flat | Drooping | |||
Heating | Stoves | ||||
Lighting | Oil lamps | ||||
Interior Finish | Ash finished oak | Ash with walnut trimming | |||
Termination Date | October 1928 | ||||
Termination Method | Dismantled | ||||
* C&S #55 had a locker installed in place of one seat, probably due to the particular needs of the trains to which it was assigned. |