Passenger Cars of the Colorado Central

Coaches #8 - #10 - Page 2

CCRR U.P. 1885 UPD&G 1890 C&S 1899 C&S 1906
#8 #184 #184 #141 #53
#9 #185 #185 #142 #54
#10 #186 #186 #143 #55


PHOTOGRAPHS & PLANS

(Photos with Source and Page in blue are best to show car details.)

# DATE PHOTOG. LOCATION SOURCE PAGE C REMARKS
  1884/85 Alex Martin High Bridge Hauck 84(d) CM CC coach #8, #9 or #10 (too short for #19 or #20)
Kindig 59(d) RR
  1885 Unknown High Bridge Kindig 219 FR CC coach #8, #9 or #10, second from left (shorter than #19/20 to its right); Still has oval medallion
(1) 1885/89 W.H. Jackson Central City switchback Digerness3 410 DD CC coach #186; Oval medallion is gone; Full scene is at Digerness3-406/07, Maxwell KJ33 (note this is KJ33, not KC33) and Poor 107. Maxwell incorrectly dates photos to 1878 but number on accompanying loco is post-1885 U.P. style.
Ferrell/C&S 22(d) MF
Maxwell KC33 JM
Poor 107(ME) CH
  no date H.H. Buckwalter Roscoe Kindig 247(d) SC UPD&G coach #184, #185 or #186 (best guess), 3rd and 4th from right; None have oval medallion
  1886 Unknown Boreas Pass Digerness2 122 DD CC coach #186 or #187 to far right; too dark to see whether it has oval medallion
  late 1880s Alex Martin High Bridge Kindig 228 FR CC coach #184, #185 or #186; No oval medallion
  1888 Unknown Idaho Springs Hauck 99 CM CC coach #184, #185 or #186; dated 1888 by Hauck but still has oval medallion
(2) bef.
1889?
W.H. Jackson Inspiration Point Hauck 89 CH CC coach #8 (Kindig) or #184, depending on date; but still has oval medallion
Kindig 55 CR
Poor 66(ME) CH
  no date Unknown High Fill Kindig 225(u) CR UPD&G coach #184, #185 or #186; undated, but likely after 1885 as it is missing the oval medallion
  1902 Unknown Deansbury Kindig 266 CR C&S coach #141, #142 or #143 (3rd car, best guess)
  1904 W.H. Jackson High Bridge Kindig 235 CH C&S coach #141, #142 or #143 (left, best guess)
  no date Unknown Silver Plume Hauck 129(d) HR C&S coach #53, #54 or #55, behind RPO (best guess)
  1913 30 Nov J.W. Maxwell Unknown Maxwell KW55 JM C&S coach #55, on track to left of scene at wreck site


We are not aware of any plans or drawings for these cars.

C&S coaches #53 and #54 diagram

Car diagram for C&S coaches #53 and #54. updated through 1916. (Note that this is not a scale drawing.) Click pic for enlargement.


C&S coach #55 diagram

Car diagram for C&S coach #55 updated through 1916. (Note that this is not a scale drawing.) Click pic for enlargement/


SUMMARY

CC No. #8 #9 #10
1885 U.P. No. #184 #185 #186
1891 UPD&G No. #184 #185 #186
1899 C&S No. #141 #142 #143
1906 C&S No. #53 #54 #55
Car Type Coach
Capacity (1885) 22 seats
(1916) 22 seats 21 seats *
Delivery Date December 1880
Acquired From Union Pacific Railway
Cost $4,592.56 each
Length Over Endsills

(1885)

40'-2"

(1916)

40'-0" 39'-10"
Length Over Buffers (1916) 47'-5" 47'-7"
Truck Centers (1916) 30'-1" 29'-10"
Wheel Size (1885) 26" 24" 24"

(1916)

26" 26" 26"
Truck Wheelbase (1916) 5'-6" 5"-0"
Width (1916) 7'-10" 8'-0"
Height of Body (1916) 9'-6" 9'-6"
Body Above Rails (1916) 34" 36"

Weight

(1912) 17 tons 18 tons

(1916)

38,400 lbs. 41,320 lbs. 38,700 lbs.
Platform Roof Bull-nosed
Platform roof eaves Flat Drooping
Heating Stoves
Lighting Oil lamps
Interior Finish Ash finished oak Ash with walnut trimming
Termination Date October 1928
Termination Method Dismantled
* C&S #55 had a locker installed in place of one seat, probably due to the particular needs of the trains to which it was assigned.


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16 January 2007

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