Coaches #3 & #4
| CCRR |
U.P. 1885 |
UPD&G 1890 |
C&S 1899 |
C&S 1906 |
| #3 |
(#189) |
Gone |
Gone |
Gone |
| #4 |
#181 |
#181 |
Gone |
Gone |
 |
|
(1)
CC
coach #3 or #4, with baggage car #2 and what appears to be a homemade
boxcar, near Beaver Brook Station sometime between 1874 and 1876. Photo is
at Hauck-42. |
DESCRIPTION
Since coaches #3 and #4 were out-shopped by the Golden shops of the Colorado
Central within 2 months of each other, and reportedly were of the same length,
it is reasonable to believe they were sisters. They had 11
double-pane windows with a
moderate arch, board and
batten siding with an oval
name panel
centered on the car, and
broken bullnose platform roofs.
 |
|
(2)
CC
coach #3 or #4 in Clear Creek Canyon c. 1875. Photo at
Hauck-41,
Kindig-49 and
Speas-14. |
HISTORY
Coach #3 was out-shopped by the Golden shops of the Colorado Central in
September 1873. It was said to be the first passenger car built in Colorado.
Coach #4 was out-shopped two months later.
Coach #3 burned at Georgetown on 11 February 1880: a fate all too common to
wooden passenger cars heated by coal stoves that were often over-stoked to try
to heat the length of a drafty car. She was sitting at the station, having
arrived with the evening train from Golden, but the hose of the firemen was too
short to reach the car, so the car was rolled to meet the hose, but too late.
When it came time to assign numbers at the 1885 renumbering by the Union
Pacific, coach #4 became #181, and coach #3 became #189, with the footnote,
“being rebuilt at Omaha.” But it apparently became the car that never returned,
because when the UPD&G Receiver reassigned numbers in 1891, it didn’t make the
roster.
But then coach #181 didn’t make the Colorado & Southern roster either in
1899, being retired 4 August 1897 and apparently dismantled. Sad. Only 24 years
old. Hardly more than a teen-ager compared to many of the narrow gauge passenger
cars.
 |
(3)
Coach
#3 or #4 with a different train in Clear Creek Canyon, 1878. Photo at
Digerness3-347 and
Kindig-53. |
PHOTOGRAPHS & PLANS
(Photos with Source and Page in blue are
best to show car details.)
|
# |
DATE |
PHOTOG. |
LOCATION |
SOURCE |
PAGE |
C |
REMARKS |
|
(1) |
1874/76 |
Joseph Collier |
Beaver Brook Station |
Hauck |
42 |
DF |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
|
(2) |
c. 1875 / early 1880s? |
Charles Weitfle |
Clear Creek Canyon |
Kindig |
49 |
DP |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
|
Hauck |
41 |
DP |
|
Speas |
14 |
EH |
|
(3) |
1878 |
L. McLean |
Clear Creek Canyon |
Digerness3 |
347 |
DD |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
|
Kindig |
53(u) |
DP |
| |
late 1870s |
Alex Martin |
above Black Hawk |
Poor |
48 |
EH |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
| |
1878 |
Charles Weitfle |
Central City |
Kindig |
65(d) |
FR |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
| |
n.d. |
W.G. Chamberlain |
Beaver Brook Station |
Kindig |
51 |
PR |
CC coach #3 or #4 |
| |
late 1880s |
J.B. Sturtevant |
near Sunset on the GSL&P |
Beebe |
146(d) |
EH |
CC coach #181 |
|
Ehernberger/UP |
49 |
RK |
|
Kindig |
348(d) |
MP |
|
Poor |
88(d) |
MP |
|
DPL-WHC |
MCC-3175 |
DP |
We know of no plans or drawings for CC coaches #3 or #4.
SUMMARY
| CC No. |
#3 |
#4 |
| 1885 U.P. No. |
(#189)
* |
#181 |
| 1891 UPD&G No. |
Gone |
#181 |
| 1899 C&S No. |
Gone |
Retired |
| 1906 C&S No. |
Gone |
Gone |
| Car Type |
Coach |
| Capacity |
|
15 seats |
| Delivery Date |
Sept 1873 |
Nov 1873 |
| Acquired From |
CCRR Golden shops |
| Length Over Endsills |
30'-9" |
| Length Over Buffers |
|
|
| Truck Centers |
|
|
| Wheel Size |
|
24" |
| Truck Wheelbase |
|
|
| Width |
|
|
| Height of Body |
|
|
| Body Above Rails |
|
|
| Weight |
|
|
| Platform Roof |
|
|
| Heating |
Stoves |
| Lighting |
|
|
| Interior Finish |
|
|
| Termination Date |
11 Feb 1880 |
4 Aug 1897 |
| Termination Method |
Burned |
Retired |
|
* "Being rebuilt at
Omaha." (But never returned.) |
